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Ten Driver
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Posted - February 04 2019 :  12:28:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SHOT Review posted
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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - February 04 2019 :  5:01:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace

Patience?! What patience? I'm gonna mail my comments to you snail mail. Ace



My frequent prayer - often used while running a firing line - is: "Lord give me patience...and I want it RIGHT NOW!"
Jim

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Ten Driver
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Posted - April 01 2019 :  6:14:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It’s April Fools over at RevolverGuy. Enjoy!
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LittleBill
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Posted - April 02 2019 :  9:16:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very funny! Found myself laughing out loud several times.


"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at its testing point"--- C.S. Lewis

"There are some ideas so foolish, that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

Slow Is Smooth, Smooth Is Fast
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Ten Driver
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Posted - April 03 2019 :  4:42:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad you enjoyed it Bill!
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LittleBill
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Posted - April 03 2019 :  6:26:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I want one if those special Navy Seal Taurus Judges in the worst way!

Talk about taking tacti-cool to a whole new level....






"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at its testing point"--- C.S. Lewis

"There are some ideas so foolish, that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

Slow Is Smooth, Smooth Is Fast
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Ten Driver
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Posted - May 22 2019 :  01:07:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All you Ruger fans might appreciate the deep dive we’ve taken into the LCR these last couple weeks. Enjoy!
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Ten Driver
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Posted - October 13 2019 :  4:59:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We’re talking about wadcutters for defense and would love to hear your thoughts and experiences
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840
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Posted - October 13 2019 :  6:45:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ten Driver
We’re talking about wadcutters for defense and would love to hear your thoughts and experiences.
An interesting topic that I read with interest. Both my older brother & I used to carry 148 gr. wadcutters. Factory production and some my brother hand-loaded.

The hand-loadeds were not carried specifically for LE duty, but were 'on-hand' if we wanted to use them. His special-case testing was interesting, and effective as well. That was back in the good old mid-'70s revolver era.

'840'

Yes, I have my semi-autos, but folks need to credit the serious versatility of a good revolver with a serviceable load.
Serviceable revolver, learn it well, carry it always. Monte Berry
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Ten Driver
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Posted - October 13 2019 :  11:14:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 840
Both my older brother & I used to carry 148 gr. wadcutters. Factory production and some my brother hand-loaded.

'840'



840, did you guys load up the hollow-based wadcutters backwards, as some did?
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840
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Posted - October 14 2019 :  12:28:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by:
Ten Driver


840, did you guys load up the hollow-based wadcutters backwards, as some did?
Yes, my brother Ed started hand-loading in '68, but by '74 he had more time, patience, and better reloading equipment to work up his loads and checked them all at the range as he progressed using 3 to 5 different revolvers.

Other than to have some that we carried in our snubs in the off-hand pocket, he did have a speedloader along with them at-the-ready. I can't describe the purpose on here of how and when he used them, but I can tell you that the results were eye-opening at the time.

I don't recall which brand HBWC he used or the final loading he settled on, but I know he had a gas check on the front-end which was inserted in the cartridge case first.

Not sure if I can provide my phone number here for you to reach me. It's easier to describe the events of their use via phone conversation.

'840'

Yes, I have my semi-autos, but folks need to credit the serious versatility of a good revolver with a serviceable load.
Serviceable revolver, learn it well, carry it always. Monte Berry
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Ten Driver
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Posted - October 16 2019 :  04:59:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
840, if you want to drop me a line at mike@revolverguy.com I’d love to follow up on that with you.

V/R
Mike
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840
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Posted - October 16 2019 :  8:41:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ten Driver
840, if you want to drop me a line at mike@revolverguy.com I’d love to follow up on that with you.

V/R
Mike

Mike, I'll get to that this evening.

'840'

Yes, I have my semi-autos, but folks need to credit the serious versatility of a good revolver with a serviceable load.
Serviceable revolver, learn it well, carry it always. Monte Berry
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840
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Posted - November 05 2019 :  03:30:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, Digging through some notes I had made from my brother's hand-load notes, I couldn't find the brand bullet he settled on. Knowing him it might have been the Winchester 148 gr. HBWC that he seated backwards. Nor can I find the specific load data I couldn't mention here anyway, but I do recall he loaded things very consistently as he was into perfection when it came to his reloading time and effort. I do recall they had a MV of about 845 FPS ±5.

That's all the info I could find. Just wish I could have also found a 50 round box or two of them, but no luck.

'840'

Yes, I have my semi-autos, but folks need to credit the serious versatility of a good revolver with a serviceable load.
Serviceable revolver, learn it well, carry it always. Monte Berry
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Ten Driver
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Posted - January 11 2020 :  3:47:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The cussed and discussed S&W Lock is featured this week. Enjoy!
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Ten Driver
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Posted - February 01 2020 :  11:42:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SHOT 2020 revolver highlights posted over at the blog. Of note:

The Python was a pleasant surprise. I had expected to be disappointed, but was not. The guns were nicely made and finished, and the actions were excellent—the best factory-standard DA actions to be had today, in my opinion. There’s a few videos floating around on the interwebs showing the cylinder fail to rotate when the trigger is pulled, and those certainly bear investigation, but the guns had not been returned to Colt’s yet at the time of the show, so they couldn’t comment.

Even if the problem turns out to be the guns (and not the shooter, which is definitely a possibility—short stroking can cause that issue), I suspect Colt’s will figure it out quickly and make appropriate adjustments. Evan’s One Year Rule applies again, but I’m excited about this new Python and it appears to be a worthy successor in an era where manufacturing has shifted away from skilled labor and hand-fitting.

Good news—Kimber has quietly redesigned their K6s firing pin and it’s now being machined out of steel. The previous design, made from Titanium, was developing a reputation for breaking after dry fire. This new FP design and material should fix this troubling issue, and eliminate the Achilles Heel of this otherwise excellent gun. New replacement sight blades are also rumored to be in the works, to fix the regulation issues we encountered during T&E. This is also very good news.

Mike

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Evan
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Posted - February 02 2020 :  07:11:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike-in another Century I tried hbwc loaded backwards but could never get them to fly straight from a J fame. The colts would keep them on the straight and narrow but then Super Vel showed up and that's what I carried in my second gun.

Now that I only carry wheel guns I'm looking for a .357 load I like.

"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."

Harold B. Lee

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Ten Driver
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Posted - February 02 2020 :  12:51:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting! Must have been the better twist rate that Colt used. The Colt barrels had a reputation for being more accurate than the S&Ws back in the day, because of the twist rate. That’s why custom smiths like Bill Davis went to the effort of hanging Colt barrels on S&W frames—best barrel mated to the best action.

I’m pretty impressed with the Hornady Critical Duty and Speer GDSB in .357 these days. What has been your experience with these, Evan?
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840
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Posted - February 03 2020 :  01:09:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Evan:
Mike-in another Century I tried hbwc loaded backwards but could never get them to fly straight from a J fame. The colts would keep them on the straight and narrow but then Super Vel showed up and that's what I carried in my second gun.

Evan, first, note my 'signature' below.


Now, I got to enjoy the time and effort my brother Ed put into reloading. It just wasn't something I felt like ding as I had other interests, and too many kids coming along during the era in my life. He had played with backward-seating the 148 gr. HBWC about '68 to '72, just now and then, and we both got a hold of some of those light-and-fast Super-Vels in '72. Also got a Charter Arms short-barrel that we first tried them out in. Interesting.

It wasn't until '74/'75 when my brother worked for a smaller town department in Eastern Oregon when he got into reloading more seriously when he worked up some decent-performing 'Backwards-Bullets' (I just said I was loaded with B-B's or describe my hide-out as a 'BB Gun') but eventually it was easy to say we carried 'Wide-Mouth Bullets.'

In short-guns we used S&W J & K frames, Charter Arms and a Colt Detective Special. In a service gun we fired them in a wider variety of 4" bbls. S&W K frames, a Dan Wesson, Ruger Security Six and later a GP-100, a Colt Python I had and didn't like, and I think my brother used a Lawman or Trooper as well. Sometimes, in any of the handguns used, they would key-hole but most of the time they'd punch a nice round hole.

Ed passed away in 2011 and I don't have all of the notes he kept, but I do know he ended up selecting a softer lead instead of a harder lead, and he also started gas-checking them. Their velocity was about 845 fps, ±5, and I have no clue which bullets or powder he settled on.

I do know that for his 'special purpose' use and for the coyote hunting I'd do up-close, his 'BB Gun' loadings worked quite well. I wish I could find some modern ammunition that gave me that loading and worked well and consistently ... and was affordable.

'840'

Yes, I have my semi-autos, but folks need to credit the serious versatility of a good revolver with a serviceable load.
Serviceable revolver, learn it well, carry it always. Monte Berry

Edited by - 840 on February 03 2020 06:39:43 AM
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Pop Pop
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Posted - February 03 2020 :  11:06:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been using Cor Bon DPX 357 ammo in my carry revolver. They expand well in water jugs, for what it's worth. My wife uses 38 Spl DPX in her Mdl 65 3". They expand well also.

Pop Pop
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Evan
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Posted - February 03 2020 :  2:18:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike-Rem GS .357 125 gr -seems to be a nice 3/4 Magnum round that is doable with J frames like my wife's Smith 640.

"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."

Harold B. Lee

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Evan
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Posted - February 05 2020 :  4:43:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
laying in bed last night losing at Hearts on my Fire when I remembered that I chronod a number of .357 Smith Model 640 and the Gold Sabre ran almost 1200 fps from the 640 barrel and was controllable. The CCI GD short barrel stuff barely broke 1,000 fops with the .357 version.

"The greatest thing a Father can do for his children is to love their Mother."

Harold B. Lee

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Arvinator
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Posted - February 05 2020 :  9:44:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have some Remington GS .357 for my 4 inch Model 66 and I liked them when I shot a few.

I'm still fond of the Silvertips in .357 in my L frame S&W 681...

Be honest, fair, and always prepared...
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BatteryOaksBilly
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USA
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Posted - March 06 2020 :  3:56:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Taurus View..the original With the window weighs 11 ounces loaded. We have been using here on the range for learning purposes a 148 grain HBWC with the hollow base holding a 00 buckshot. The load makes for a 210 grain load. It is running 710 FPS out of the 1 inch barrel. The projectiles hit the target less than 2 inches apart at 10 yards. This thing will literally go in your shirt pocket. Or course it is No Longer made!

Billy Bruton..Carry every step..Shoot every day!
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Ten Driver
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Posted - January 10 2021 :  4:35:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The .38 Snubby ammo article posted this weekend might interest some of you!
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