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Ace
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Posted - July 11 2021 :  1:35:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, the LC9 has a nominal 3" barrel. Which would be a decent, socially effective round to recommend for this platform, in particular between the 9BPLE and the Speer 124gr Gold Dot? IMI 124gr HP? What others? Thanks. Ace

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Posted - July 11 2021 :  2:57:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NYPD is very happy with the Speer 124 gr +p round and report goo results even out of Glock 26's and Kahr mini guns.

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dawei
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Posted - July 12 2021 :  3:41:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a first-generation circa 2011 Ruger® LC9; my gun is hammer-fired. My particular gun doesn't shoot well with either 115gr or 124gr; rather, it has a definite preference for 147gr ammunition. So far it shoots all 147gr ammo to POA. I practice with Winchester® 147gr FMJ #USA9MM1 and carry Winchester® Elite Defender® 147gr BJHP #S9MMPDB1.

Ace, I'm not suggesting that you should use 147gr ammo, rather just relating what I have learned about my LC9. YMMV.

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Posted - July 12 2021 :  10:20:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Ruger LC9S is loaded with Hornady Critical Defense. They were affordable, available, and reliable when I was testing a few thru it. Been carrying it at times in a pocket holster when I'm cheating on my J frame .38 snub...

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Ten Driver
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Posted - July 13 2021 :  8:37:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ace, I’m assuming you have those 3 cartridges in stock already, so that’s why your focus is limited to them?

I think the LC9 is probably a little svelte for +P+ pressures—not much slide mass there to tame things, and I suspect you’d have a greater likelihood of problems. The 9BPLE might beat the gun up rather quickly, and the slide velocity may be too high for best reliability.

I’d lean towards testing the 124+P Gold Dot, first.

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heavyweight
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Posted - July 15 2021 :  5:47:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm fond of Federal HST. Good luck finding any.
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Frogfoot
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Posted - July 16 2021 :  06:58:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of the three you mentioned specifically, I'd go with the Gold Dot. Federal 124gr. +P HST or one of the good solid copper loads would be my top two. Speaking of that, Super-Vel has some 115gr. +P SCHP in stock as I type this.

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Ace
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Posted - July 16 2021 :  08:30:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thank you all for the help, and apologize for being so long replying. I plan to get it test-shot today, as Momma and Gramma are headed out for a weekend trip. All the banging won't irritate Gramma, which has been a problem for her lately (an old age issue).

I'd forgotten about the '+P+' designation for the BPLE, so thanks for the reminder. I have some 115gr and 124gr practice loads, so first we'll see which of the two it likes better. Then I'll try the IMI 115gr and 124gr Gold Dot. Whichever it shoots best will be 'The Load'. Unless, of course, it turns out I just don't like the gun---but that doesn't happen often.

Keep it coming. Thanks again. Ace

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Ace
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Posted - July 16 2021 :  6:28:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, for now, it looks like the IMI 115gr will be the load of choice for this little pop gun. Tried some 124gr FMJ, ~12-15 yards (my backyard limit for distance), and got about a five-inch group at four or five inches high. Same distance, 115gr, about three inch group at one or two inches high. Both were to the left, which was easily fixed with an allen wrench on the rear sight. Tried the IMI load, the group actually shrunk just a tad, still a little high, but not enough to be a negative issue considering the purpose of the gun.

So, some dry-fire work, a dab of yellow and orange Sight Enhancement Compound on the front and rear respectively, and soon I'll have a different pocket BUG for the wardrobe. Or maybe make it a vest pocket gun, and keep the little .38 in the pants pocket. Is it OK to carry three at a time?

Comments, advice, and suggestions are still welcome. Ace

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Posted - July 17 2021 :  10:05:01 PM  Show Profile  Click to see CW2 Ralph Long's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've had good expansion from the Std. Pressure 124 grain Federal HST when you have a lot that actually achieves 1150 fps from a 4". Like Evan, I was a lot happier prior to discovering the chronograph. That load gets 1080-1090 from the LC9. About half the HST 124 grain Std Pressure lots fall far short of advertised velocity from duty length guns. I've tested several only hit 1090 out of a Glock 19. They will cycle the LC9 but will not reliably expand through several layers of fabric. My 124grain +P Gold Dot 9mm has the same problem. The lots of GD that actually hit >1200 fps from my Glock 19, achieve >1130 from the LCP & will expand when fired through multiple layers of fabric.

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gauchobill
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Posted - July 18 2021 :  09:26:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ace, have you tested the 115 gr.hollow point IMI load in any type of expansion/penetration material? I like the ammo, it shoots well in my 9s, and I have a few boxes left from when I bought it before the ammo well went dry. I have searched the internet for penetration/expansion data on this load and cannot find any.
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Ace
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Posted - July 18 2021 :  7:41:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad you asked, gaucho. Since that post, I've looked at a lot of videos of tests for that load--well, as many as I could find--and in gel it doesn't look real impressive. Thinking maybe about getting something else with proven results. I'd like the 124gr +P Gold Dots, but that weight bullet in this particular gun, if I aimed at the shirt pocket it might hit the ear (cute way of saying it shoots way high). The few times I've almost had to shoot somebody, there didn't seem to be time to stop and remember to aim low.

Lotsa choices out there, and more ammo has been showing up lately, so something will work out. Thanks for the concern. Keep it coming. Ace

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Chris Christian
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Posted - July 19 2021 :  5:09:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace

Glad you asked, gaucho. Since that post, I've looked at a lot of videos of tests for that load--well, as many as I could find--and in gel it doesn't look real impressive. Thinking maybe about getting something else with proven results. I'd like the 124gr +P Gold Dots, but that weight bullet in this particular gun, if I aimed at the shirt pocket it might hit the ear (cute way of saying it shoots way high). The few times I've almost had to shoot somebody, there didn't seem to be time to stop and remember to aim low.

Lotsa choices out there, and more ammo has been showing up lately, so something will work out. Thanks for the concern. Keep it coming. Ace



You could put a higher front sight on the gun to get it zeroed with 124 loads.

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Ace
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Posted - July 19 2021 :  8:17:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or maybe just 'gorilla glue' a BB or something on top of the front sight?

I'm hoping to avoid that (the higher sight; the BB thing is supposed to be humorous). But it might come down to it. I did fix a high-shooting revawver once by filing down the rear sight; it worked, but it was ugly. Ace

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billmc
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Posted - July 21 2021 :  12:39:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After following this thread I can say that I'm glad I never wasted any money on a chronograph. You guys have just confirmed for me, that not all my decisions have been bad.
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Ten Driver
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Posted - July 21 2021 :  11:37:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ace, I presumed you limited the original question to those three loads, because that’s all you had, or all you could get. As such, I didn’t want to recommend other loads, and limited my comments to those three.

If you have other loads available though, I would seek them rather than carrying the IMI load (knowing that the 9BPLE is unsuitable and the 124+P GD didn’t shoot close enough to POA in the gun).

It will do, but the Israeli bullet isn’t all that impressive, and you can do better without looking too hard. If you think a 115 grain load is the special sauce, due to sight regulation, I’d actually prefer the standard pressure 9BP to it, for example. Another 115 grain bullet to consider would be the Hornady Critical Defense. Both of those should do better than the IMI load.

Alas, there’s still major supply issues to contend with, so if you’re still limited to the three original choices, go with the IMI because it provides the best chance to put the bullet in the right place—which is the most important thing, as Evan has shown us.

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Ace
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Posted - July 22 2021 :  08:26:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been wondering if the IMI load isn't more intended for their submachine guns, and maybe get better performance from the longer barrel/higher velocity.

And I will be looking at other options. I just kinda hoped one already on hand would be that 'special sauce' (now I'm hankering for a Big Mac). Ace

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