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Chris Christian
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 Posted - June 01 2018 : 5:47:32 PM
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Originally posted by gw
With standard pressure ammo, I find "controllabilty " between the g17 and lightweight Commander to be very close myself.
my wife shoots her g19 with +p+, she won't touch a 1911
I think the muzzle flip bothers her, that and she's a big sissy.......
Every shooter is an individual. And, when it comes to guns... just like shirts, pants and shoes... "one size doesn't fit all".
Perceptive recoil can vary between gun platforms. One platform may certainly "fit" better than another. We just have to all seek our own personal salvation. Sometimes a change of platform results in salvation |
Chris Christian
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Charlie Foxtrot
Average Member
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Posted - June 02 2018 : 01:11:45 AM
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| Yesterday, Massad Ayoob published an article called "Arthritis and the Shooter" on his Backwoods Home website where he linked this thread, so we might see some additional (new) traffic here! |
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jle3030
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - June 02 2018 : 09:00:26 AM
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Perceived recoil effect can even vary considerably depending on which grips (oops...stocks) are mounted on the gun. For example: The factory Ahrends grips on my S&W Model 21, shooting the .44 Spl Skelton load [Rule 4 observed] hurt my hand. Rubber Hogue Monogrips are better. The wood Monogrips are distinctly wider than the rubber ones and distribute the recoil to the point where my early arthritis no longer objects at all.
For the Model 19, 2.5 inch barrel, I'm good with the factory grips and Tyler T-grip up to its preferred .357 Remington Golden Saber load. On the infrequent occasions I shoot full-bore .357 loads in that gun the backstrap covering Pachmayr Compacs go on first. On the other hand, the skimpy Pachmayr Professional Compacs with a poorly fitting open backstrap, start to hurt with .38+P's.
In 1911's I much prefer wider grip panels to the extra thin "more concealable" style.
Before downloading the gun, changing to a lighter caliber, or moving up to a heavier all steel model, a simple grip swap might solve the problem.
Jeff
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Ace
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - June 02 2018 : 09:53:42 AM
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| Jeff, could we call that a 'stock trade'? Ace |
Give me $1 every time a Liberal lies, I'll give you $5 every time one tells the truth; I'll end up a wealthy man, you'll end up broke.
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jle3030
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - June 02 2018 : 3:45:08 PM
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Originally posted by Ace
Jeff, could we call that a 'stock trade'? Ace
I'll need a few minutes to come to grips with that question.
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LittleBill
Advanced Member
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Posted - June 02 2018 : 4:24:30 PM
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Ace.... get a grip.... 
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Ace
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - June 02 2018 : 11:02:25 PM
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| I did; it's on my .45 revawver. Gonna try it at the range this week coming, but I won't put much stock in it unless it works good. Ace |
Give me $1 every time a Liberal lies, I'll give you $5 every time one tells the truth; I'll end up a wealthy man, you'll end up broke.
If pro-gunners are as murderous as anti-gunners claim, why are there so many anti-gunners still running their mouths? |
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Jim Higginbotham
Moderator
USA
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Posted - June 05 2018 : 06:48:30 AM
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GW,
My wife is not a shooter, but she is a good shot (if that makes any sense).
Everything she picks up she does well with. Might be because when it comes to shooting she does not think she was born with "the shooting gene" like most of the guys from around here.
When she used to go to the range with me she would like to shoot my 6.5" 29 with full charge loads - my guess is just to show that girls can handle it. Though she has not shot it in some years now.
I bought her a little .38 with pearl stocks. She looked at it and said "that's not a .45, I don't want it"
Oddly enough my Mom was the same way, I have her Colt 1911 Commemorative with Ivory stocks that she sometimes carried. She too was a good shot with a pistol and .22 rifle - but then she grew up on a farm.
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Ace
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - June 05 2018 : 11:34:51 AM
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Reminds me of something I've learned over the years: I Daddy/husband/boyfriend buys his girl a gun as a surprise gift, and it's something she really doesn't like, she'll let you know--sometimes in 'no uncertain terms'. Then it's time for a trip to the gun shop with her and the gun so she can trade it for what she wants.
If Momma/wife/girlfriend buy her guy a gun as a surprise gift, it could be a Jennings .25 or a Hi Point .45, and we'll be so tickled at the thought, we'll keep it and treat it like part of King Tut's treasure.
I guess girls just aren't as appreciative as boys. Ace |
Give me $1 every time a Liberal lies, I'll give you $5 every time one tells the truth; I'll end up a wealthy man, you'll end up broke.
If pro-gunners are as murderous as anti-gunners claim, why are there so many anti-gunners still running their mouths? |
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Jim Higginbotham
Moderator
USA
9957 Posts |
Posted - June 06 2018 : 08:00:36 AM
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Originally posted by jle3030
Perceived recoil effect can even vary considerably depending on which grips (oops...stocks) are mounted on the gun. For example: The factory Ahrends grips on my S&W Model 21, shooting the .44 Spl Skelton load [Rule 4 observed] hurt my hand. Rubber Hogue Monogrips are better. The wood Monogrips are distinctly wider than the rubber ones and distribute the recoil to the point where my early arthritis no longer objects at all.
For the Model 19, 2.5 inch barrel, I'm good with the factory grips and Tyler T-grip up to its preferred .357 Remington Golden Saber load. On the infrequent occasions I shoot full-bore .357 loads in that gun the backstrap covering Pachmayr Compacs go on first. On the other hand, the skimpy Pachmayr Professional Compacs with a poorly fitting open backstrap, start to hurt with .38+P's.
In 1911's I much prefer wider grip panels to the extra thin "more concealable" style.
Before downloading the gun, changing to a lighter caliber, or moving up to a heavier all steel model, a simple grip swap might solve the problem.
Jeff
I do something odd, I test stuff. I find that not only must the gun fit my hand, the material matters as well.
Someone gave me a prototype of a set of stocks (that shall remain nameless as they may well work for someone else).
I was doing a class at Rangemaster so I put them on and went out and shot a controlability test - my groups doubled in size!
I took them off and gave them back thanking the fellow for the offer. Later in conversation I told Tom Givens about my results and he told me he did the same thing.
That "your mileage may vary" thing is true 
Jim H. |
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Frogfoot
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - June 09 2018 : 06:36:10 AM
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Originally posted by Frogfoot
Maybe a 1911 style pistol in .22 TCM might work? Light recoil, fast shot recovery times, high capacity and relatively cheap ammunition prices on the plus side, but only one load on the minus side. With the 9R version of this round, you can get a conversion kit for your Glock 17 or 22. It's too bad there's not a smaller, more affordable pistol in 5.7x28 though.
I have one of those - it is indeed very light recoil. I'm not sure I'd trust the 40 gr. bullet for self defense though.
Jim
You've got a point there. I retrieved one round each of the Armscor .22 Magnum and .22 TCM loads and they appear to use the exact same bullet in both. Perhaps a better constructed bullet would be in order such as ones used in the Hornady Critical Defense line. |
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arty
Junior Member
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Posted - June 09 2018 : 09:39:25 AM
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Wide rubber grips help, especially when shooting with just a single hand.
It is a good idea to have a clone in 22LR for lots of practice. A model 18 makes for a good practice gun for a larger revolver. This doesn't mean I advocate giving up practice with the center fire round, but sometimes it is good to avoid the beating you get with lots of recoil and muzzle blast. I have nasty arthritis in my left hand. I am a righty, fortunately. It is just time until it hits both sides. |
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flc
Starting Member
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Posted - July 12 2018 : 6:59:25 PM
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| Just saw this thread but it pertains to me. At 76 yrs old my right hand trigger finger has arthritis so bad it's almost frozen straight out. I have arthritis in both hands but that's the worst of it. Recoil is not an issue to me - just pulling the trigger. I have recently alternated between shooting left handed and shooting right handed with my middle finger as trigger finger. Actually both work quite well. Anyone else tried this? I primarily shoot SIGs 9mm and .45 both DA/SA and DAK. |
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LittleBill
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Posted - July 12 2018 : 8:02:36 PM
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One of the surprising things scientists have discovered about our human brains in the last decade, is the unexpected degree of ‘plasticity’: our brain’s ability to ‘re-program’ itself when it has to.
For example, when someone permanently loses their eyesight, their brain starts putting together new neural networks: taking over areas formerly used for vision, and re-connecting them to networks serving touch and sound.
So re-programming yourself to shoot with your middle finger should be entirely possible.
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"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at its testing point"--- C.S. Lewis
"There are some ideas so foolish, that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell
Slow Is Smooth, Smooth Is Fast
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7 Pistol Shooting Tips for People with Arthritis
