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Russ Larges
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USA
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  3:24:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After shooting and handling the 1911 platform for awhile now I am still having trouble with the grip safety. My grip on the gun is not consistent enough I guess, still working on it and also the weak hand thumb placement.
I have to wonder why these guns are not made with a solid back frame and just do away with the grip safety?
I am much more comfortable with the glock then the 1911.
Russ

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Uncle Mike
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USA
1652 Posts

Posted - April 14 2018 :  3:40:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, Russ did you check the leaf spring under the grip safety? I had to replace several on Springfields with Wolf springs. It's an easy fix, regards, Mike

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Russ Larges
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USA
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  5:59:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Mike

Hi, Russ did you check the leaf spring under the grip safety? I had to replace several on Springfields with Wolf springs. It's an easy fix, regards, Mike




Yup, I even tuned the grip safety itself so it would disengage sooner.
Kind of think I am getting to old to change systems.
Russ

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Ace
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USA
5203 Posts

Posted - April 14 2018 :  6:44:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does it have the 'bump' on it, to help with a less-than-perfect grip?
There was a time people would pin the grip safety and just rely on the thumb lever. Not sure I'd recommend it, and don't know how that would look to the legal beagles if it was ever used in a social situation, but if it's a range-only gun, might be an option. Ace

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djwarner
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USA
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Posted - April 15 2018 :  08:46:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I recently ran across a WWII 1911 training film on Youtube. There were several things that did not conform with our modern teachings. Most interesting was two handed shooting. They had the second hand held palm up, placing the butt of the gun in the center of the palm and wrapping the fingers and thumb to grab the primary hand. This allows you fully extend your primary arm with elbow and wrist straight while using the sights.

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Ace
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USA
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Posted - April 15 2018 :  09:29:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yup, and in my experience, makes recoil much less controllable. We used to call it 'tea cup grip'---well, still do, on the rare occasion it occurs. Ace

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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - April 20 2018 :  08:41:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've never had a problem myself but have run into folks who do.

If one does not have a departmental regulation one can just tape it down - or do the classy Texas Ranger thing and use a small leather strip to tie it down. Rubber bands work as well but have to be changed occasionally.

I actually like it myself and make sure all of mine function and would never carry a pistol with a short trigger under 8 or 9 lbs without some sort of safety other than on the trigger itself (I did that for a while but it scared the begessezes out of me - especially since I see cases come across the desk regularly about people shooting themselves when holstering).

It isn't mostly fingers on the trigger it is shirt tails and coat tassels. I even know of 6 going off when already holstered and no hand on the gun - one fatal.

Jim

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LittleBill
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Posted - April 20 2018 :  08:51:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Higginbotham

I've never had a problem myself but have run into folks who do.

If one does not have a departmental regulation one can just tape it down - or do the classy Texas Ranger thing and use a small leather strip to tie it down. Rubber bands work as well but have to be changed occasionally.

I actually like it myself and make sure all of mine function and would never carry a pistol with a short trigger under 8 or 9 lbs without some sort of safety other than on the trigger itself (I did that for a while but it scared the begessezes out of me - especially since I see cases come across the desk regularly about people shooting themselves when holstering).

It isn't mostly fingers on the trigger it is shirt tails and coat tassels. I even know of 6 going off when already holstered and no hand on the gun - one fatal.

Jim


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