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Evan
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Posted - April 13 2018 :  4:09:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Barring a predicted ice storm tomorrow I'm going to trade for a like new Smith 442. No sane man can have too many J frames or too much Super Vel.

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Jim Higginbotham
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USA
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  08:47:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amen!

Jim

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whiskeymike
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USA
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  09:28:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A couple of years ago, the son of a friend of ours graduated from the police academy at the nearby very large city. He happened to come by with his mother shortly thereafter and I took him aside.
I gave him one of my 442's with a Nemesis pocket holster and explained the " non-threatening hand in pocket" posture that I learned about on here.
He's moved to another metro area department, but I feel sure the 442 is with him.
Bill

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Ace
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USA
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  09:46:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've mentioned the study we did some time back, on the issue of how many guns a person really 'needs'. It has been proven scientifically that the number is always 'one more'. Same people did a study on the quantity of ammo that should be set aside; the answer to that was 'more'. Ace

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Evan
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  1:24:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, the ice storm showed up and so its delayed. I still consider the J frame the prefect "one foot in the grave gun".

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Harold B. Lee

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Chris Christian
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USA
3100 Posts

Posted - April 14 2018 :  1:47:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As a civilian CCW carrier, I've always considered the weak side pocket snubby to be the gun that allows me reach my strong side primary.

Chris Christian
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Arvinator
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USA
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  3:41:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've ben carrying a 5 shot 38 snub for only 28 years this month (1990). It was first a Charter Arms "Undercover" then a Taurus Model 85 and in 1994 I got a Model 60 then a 642 in 1998 and never looked back. I still have the Model 60 but the 642 is my daily "pocket gun". With C/T laser grips it's like the spare tire for my vehicles. "Just in case"...

Be honest, fair, and always prepared...
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Evan
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  6:46:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tomorrow doesn't look any better, so we'll do the trade next Saturday.

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MisterMike
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USA
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  7:35:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I started shooting with .38 CA undercover 70's model. I'll always love a good J-frame snubnose, though lately, I've been carrying the new Colt Cobra.

Edited by - MisterMike on April 14 2018 7:41:00 PM
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oldmuleskinner
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  8:30:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 442 is my pocket gun. I like the black finish, as it is less visible in a jacket pocket than one with a brighter finish. I always have it with me as a backup.

Maybe a better reason for liking the dark finish is that it color coordinates with my black rifles.

Does that make the 442 more dangerous than my 642 or 638?

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whiskeymike
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USA
287 Posts

Posted - April 14 2018 :  10:01:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oldmuleskinner


Does that make the 442 more dangerous than my 642 or 638?



Absolutely! Itís now an ďassault snubbyĒ!

whiskeymike
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LittleBill
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  10:03:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At the very least, scarier to Liberals....


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Sigger
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USA
88 Posts

Posted - April 14 2018 :  10:15:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I carried the Old Chief's Special for a backup for years, now retired and replaced it with 442. I recently was asked by a female Christian singer for advice on purchasing a first handgun. My recommendation was 442. Her hubby has 357 magnum, model 66. I feel for people who just want to shoot occasionally and want a house handgun, the revolver is the best choice.
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Ace
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  10:22:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's not an 'assault snubby' unless it has a pistol grip.


Oh, wait... Ace

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LfiGrad
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USA
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Posted - April 14 2018 :  11:56:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have any of you J frame guys tried the Ruger LCR? I have one in my pocket right now, and I have to say, 40 years and more than a few J frames later, I think this little Ruger is the best "J" frame I have ever owned.




If my only choice was a loaded .25 or an unloaded .45, I would choose the empty .45. They both have the same stopping power, but the empty 1911 looks a lot more convincing and makes a better club.

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Ten Driver
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Posted - April 15 2018 :  12:09:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace

It's not an 'assault snubby' unless it has a pistol grip.


Oh, wait... Ace



Or a shoulder thing that goes up.
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Ten Driver
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Posted - April 15 2018 :  12:13:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LfiGrad

Have any of you J frame guys tried the Ruger LCR? I have one in my pocket right now, and I have to say, 40 years and more than a few J frames later, I think this little Ruger is the best "J" frame I have ever owned.







Yes, it's an excellent snub! A better trigger and sights than the S&W products, for sure.

I think the factory Hogues (which are excellent grips) are a little big and tacky for pocket carry in some pants, though.
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MisterMike
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USA
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Posted - April 15 2018 :  12:15:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LfiGrad

Have any of you J frame guys tried the Ruger LCR? I have one in my pocket right now, and I have to say, 40 years and more than a few J frames later, I think this little Ruger is the best "J" frame I have ever owned.

I haven't but it seems like it has a good reputation.



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heavyweight
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USA
796 Posts

Posted - April 16 2018 :  08:39:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LfiGrad

Have any of you J frame guys tried the Ruger LCR? I have one in my pocket right now, and I have to say, 40 years and more than a few J frames later, I think this little Ruger is the best "J" frame I have ever owned.

I carry 2 of them in cool/cold weather. One on each side of hip in Bianchi Mod. 5 Black Widow. I put Hogue Bantam grips on each. Doesn't feel as good in my hand with the different grips but conceals much better. IMHO the action is noticeably better than S&W.




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Dov
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USA
2659 Posts

Posted - April 16 2018 :  6:10:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Iíve always wanted to get a Ken Null double shoulder rig for pair of J frames.

Would be lot more accessible than my primary Glocks when driving.
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gw
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Posted - April 16 2018 :  7:03:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dov

Iíve always wanted to get a Ken Null double shoulder rig for pair of J frames.

Would be lot more accessible than my primary Glocks when driving.



I got my j frame in my back pocket.....

not so accessible when I'm driving

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BatteryOaksBilly
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USA
169 Posts

Posted - April 17 2018 :  4:09:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I carried 2 Js for 20 years after a fellow on here sent me a letter on Detroit Police stationary advising "Always take 2". I never felt undergunned.

Billy Bruton..Carry every step..Shoot every day!
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Jim Higginbotham
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USA
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Posted - April 20 2018 :  08:26:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Christian

As a civilian CCW carrier, I've always considered the weak side pocket snubby to be the gun that allows me reach my strong side primary.



For years I carried a left handed knife in my left pocket to defeat "disarms" and studied and practiced the popular techniques at the time.

And then the light bulb went off in my head - rather than an intricate manual of arms of opening a knife weak handed and then having to make a fairly precise cut: "Why would not a .38 bullet in the ear work just as well?"

The knife now sits in a drawer

But later I decided that a .45 would work even better and it would serve as a good backup if my primary got shot or my gun hand which would likely result in dropping the primary.

Jim H.

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revjen45
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Posted - April 20 2018 :  12:30:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CA doesn't have the elegance or cachet of a S&W or a DS, but the one I had always worked and it was small enough to always have.

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