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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - January 03 2018 :  12:35:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On our weekly trip yesterday I got to fondle a new Ruger revolver. I forget the designation but the clerk is an old retired LEO who knows his weel-guns and he said it was nothing other than a blue 5" Security Six - though it was labeled something else.

I had to agree with his assessment - it was six shot revolver in .357 and definitely smaller than a GP-100.

It had nice sized wood (all wood) target stocks which covered the back-strap so I could not tell if they gun actually had a back-strap like the previous Security/Speed Six - indeed they may have made it like the GP-100 to take those stocks.

It was a neat gun. If I did not have a passel of .38s, .357s I'd be tempted to pick one up!

Jim H.

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ASCTLC
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Posted - January 03 2018 :  1:03:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmmm...I don't see it on Ruger's web site, there's the SP101 and GP100 with nothing in between or maybe I don't recognize it for what it is?
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Chris Christian
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Posted - January 03 2018 :  1:26:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ASCTLC

hmmm...I don't see it on Ruger's web site, there's the SP101 and GP100 with nothing in between or maybe I don't recognize it for what it is?



I'm not aware of it either, and I normally get all of Ruger's new product PRs.

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Ace
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Posted - January 03 2018 :  3:16:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'If I did not have a passel of .38s, .357s I'd be tempted to pick one up!'

What's that got to do with anything? Ace

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BatteryOaksBilly
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Posted - January 04 2018 :  5:53:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A passel + 1 is always the right move!!!!!

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Ace
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Posted - January 04 2018 :  7:15:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We did a study a while back, came to a scientfical conclusion that there is a set number of guns that any one person should have, then stop acquiring them. It's always 'one more'. Ace

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BobM77
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Posted - January 04 2018 :  9:51:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've seen pics of a GP with wood stocks and a half lug 5" barrel but I've not heard of anything smaller.
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LittleBill
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Posted - January 05 2018 :  07:08:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace

We did a study a while back, came to a scientfical conclusion that there is a set number of guns that any one person should have, then stop acquiring them. It's always 'one more'. Ace


quote:
Originally posted by BatteryOaksBilly

A passel + 1 is always the right move!!!!!


A gun is:

A tool: for obtaining food, for self defense

A piece of our nation’s history

A means of having fun

A stimulus to the economy

A work of art, pleasing to the eye

An investment in the future

Always a good idea...


"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at its testing point"--- C.S. Lewis

"There are some ideas so foolish, that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

Slow Is Smooth, Smooth Is Fast

Edited by - LittleBill on January 05 2018 07:18:36 AM
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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - January 05 2018 :  09:28:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace

'If I did not have a passel of .38s, .357s I'd be tempted to pick one up!'

What's that got to do with anything? Ace




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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - January 05 2018 :  09:29:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sure regret not taking a picture of this thing. Maybe it is still there and I can check on it tomorrow.

Jim

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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - January 05 2018 :  09:32:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BobM77

I've seen pics of a GP with wood stocks and a half lug 5" barrel but I've not heard of anything smaller.



Is that the stainless one with a flat sided barrel? I think they call that the Match master or something similar and it is indeed a GP-100

This gun is smaller and it is blue - but it is a six shot not a 101.

I think it actually has a 100 in the model number but the clerk was a knowledgeable guy and pointed out it was Security Six size not GP-100 size.

I sure have not been able to find a reference anywhere though.

Jim

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djwarner
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Posted - January 05 2018 :  09:42:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LittleBill

quote:
Originally posted by Ace

We did a study a while back, came to a scientfical conclusion that there is a set number of guns that any one person should have, then stop acquiring them. It's always 'one more'. Ace


quote:
Originally posted by BatteryOaksBilly

A passel + 1 is always the right move!!!!!


A gun is:

A tool: for obtaining food, for self defense

A piece of our nation’s history

A means of having fun

A stimulus to the economy

A work of art, pleasing to the eye

An investment in the future

Always a good idea...





Hmmmm...

For LittleBill's list of gun attributes, assuming # 7 is universal for all guns, the other six taken in combination can indicate the minimum number of guns one must own to cover all the combinations.

If a gun had all six other attributes, you would need 1 gun to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have five attributes, you would need 6 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have four attributes, you would need 15 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have three attributes, you would need 20 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have two attributes, you would need 15 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have one attributes, you would need 6 guns to own all combinations.

This means one would never need to own more than 63 guns to cover all the bases.

Thus considered, I find my collection woefully insufficient and have redoubled my efforts for a complete set.



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BobM77
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Posted - January 05 2018 :  9:35:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The pics I saw were of a blued revolver
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jle3030
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Posted - January 06 2018 :  07:57:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by djwarner

quote:
Originally posted by LittleBill

quote:
Originally posted by Ace

We did a study a while back, came to a scientfical conclusion that there is a set number of guns that any one person should have, then stop acquiring them. It's always 'one more'. Ace


quote:
Originally posted by BatteryOaksBilly

A passel + 1 is always the right move!!!!!


A gun is:

A tool: for obtaining food, for self defense

A piece of our nation’s history

A means of having fun

A stimulus to the economy

A work of art, pleasing to the eye

An investment in the future

Always a good idea...





Hmmmm...

For LittleBill's list of gun attributes, assuming # 7 is universal for all guns, the other six taken in combination can indicate the minimum number of guns one must own to cover all the combinations.

If a gun had all six other attributes, you would need 1 gun to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have five attributes, you would need 6 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have four attributes, you would need 15 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have three attributes, you would need 20 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have two attributes, you would need 15 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have one attributes, you would need 6 guns to own all combinations.

This means one would never need to own more than 63 guns to cover all the bases.

Thus considered, I find my collection woefully insufficient and have redoubled my efforts for a complete set.

What about spares in case one goes down?

Jeff

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LittleBill
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Posted - January 06 2018 :  08:42:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by djwarner

quote:
Originally posted by LittleBill

quote:
Originally posted by Ace

We did a study a while back, came to a scientfical conclusion that there is a set number of guns that any one person should have, then stop acquiring them. It's always 'one more'. Ace


quote:
Originally posted by BatteryOaksBillyh

A passel + 1 is always the right move!!!!!


A gun is:

A tool: for obtaining food, for self defense

A piece of our nation’s history

A means of having fun

A stimulus to the economy

A work of art, pleasing to the eye

An investment in the future

Always a good idea...





Hmmmm...

For LittleBill's list of gun attributes, assuming # 7 is universal for all guns, the other six taken in combination can indicate the minimum number of guns one must own to cover all the combinations.

If a gun had all six other attributes, you would need 1 gun to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have five attributes, you would need 6 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have four attributes, you would need 15 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have three attributes, you would need 20 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have two attributes, you would need 15 guns to own all combinations.

If each gun had to have one attributes, you would need 6 guns to own all combinations.

This means one would never need to own more than 63 guns to cover all the bases.

Thus considered, I find my collection woefully insufficient and have redoubled my efforts for a complete set.





I’d submit that it’s even more complicated than that...

Just taking the ‘history’ aspect, one gun doesn’t begin to suffice: the Spencer carbine represents one facet of our nation’s history.... while the 1873 Winchester and Sharps ‘buffalo rifle’ covers another... not to mention the 1903 Springfield... the M1 Garand.... the Springfield M1A.... the M4 carbine.... the SCAR-17.... and we haven’t even gotten to handguns yet....

While in the ‘fun to shoot’ category, the selection is practically unlimited...

All pointing to the fact that ‘I just can’t afford it right now’ is the only good excuse for not buying that next gun...


"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at its testing point"--- C.S. Lewis

"There are some ideas so foolish, that only an intellectual could believe them"--- George Orwell

Slow Is Smooth, Smooth Is Fast

Edited by - LittleBill on January 06 2018 1:28:28 PM
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BatteryOaksBilly
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USA
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Posted - January 06 2018 :  09:56:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I learned to ignore the Can't Afford Demon. A purchase of any kind that REALLY pinches you in a sensitive spot today, will not even be remembered 6 months from now. Just get it is my motto. You can also Just Get Rid of it down the line. But then I'm old and into the "enjoy it today" camp.

Billy Bruton..Carry every step..Shoot every day!
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Ten Driver
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Posted - January 06 2018 :  9:30:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jim, I think you saw one of the the new Lipsey's exclusives. In this case, Model #1768, which is a blued GP100 with a 5" barrel and half lug in .357 Magnum. There are similar exclusives in .327 Mag and .44 Spl, and they all look spectacular! I can't wait to see them at SHOT in a few weeks!

Mike
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Ten Driver
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Posted - January 06 2018 :  9:47:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are built on GP100 frames, so larger than the Security Six, but the half lug gives them the same cosmetics as the older Sixes. Beautiful!
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Jim Higginbotham
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Posted - January 08 2018 :  08:28:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ten Driver

Jim, I think you saw one of the the new Lipsey's exclusives. In this case, Model #1768, which is a blued GP100 with a 5" barrel and half lug in .357 Magnum. There are similar exclusives in .327 Mag and .44 Spl, and they all look spectacular! I can't wait to see them at SHOT in a few weeks!

Mike



That might be, sounds like it but the frame was visibly smaller than the GP-100s in the case with it, that is what throws me. Looked to me like the cylinder would take a K-frame speedloader, but being blue it might just look smaller - need to make some measurements.

The stocks looked and felt smaller than the ones on the GP-100 Match as well. But I did get the feeling they were mounted on a stud like the GP-100 since they covered the back and were so small.

Thanks for the heads up!

Jim

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jle3030
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Posted - January 08 2018 :  1:10:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's a 10/24/17 video on Jeff Quinn's website that shows a new stainless Ruger GP100 with a short underlug and a grip frame that looks pure Security Six. Could that be what we're talking about?

Jeff

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Ten Driver
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Posted - January 08 2018 :  4:37:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, that's a Redhawk, Jeff. Probably one of the new 10mm ones.

Mike
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Ten Driver
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Posted - January 08 2018 :  5:10:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, that's a Redhawk, Jeff. Probably one of the new 10mm ones.

Mike
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Jim Higginbotham
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USA
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Posted - January 12 2018 :  10:49:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ten Driver

Jim, I think you saw one of the the new Lipsey's exclusives. In this case, Model #1768, which is a blued GP100 with a 5" barrel and half lug in .357 Magnum. There are similar exclusives in .327 Mag and .44 Spl, and they all look spectacular! I can't wait to see them at SHOT in a few weeks!

Mike



I looked at Lipseys, yep that's it - the .44 might find its way into my battery!

Jim

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